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On 2003-03-02 15:53, Coramoor wrote:
You have to agree that a 200MHz ARM9 processor is better than a 104MHz one.
16Mb Ram is also better than 8...
You could say that the os of the two phones is different and therefore the p800 doesn't benefit from more ram due to the os taking it up. But HEY! It doesn't. The p800 has about 7-9 MB of available ram while the 3650 has 3,4 or 3,6(I can't remember exactly).
AND. According to symbian the 7.0 and 6.1 os is not that far apart.
So if a game/app is optimized for 3650 and the same game/app is optimized for the p800. The p800 will win performance wise....
Ok, I would agree with your post in general. If the ONLY difference was proc speed, then yes, the same app on the same OS with different hardware would run differently, I would agree.
The questions then become:
1) How much different (in reality) is Symbian 7.x from Symbian 6.x, and
2) The original point of contention on this part of the thread was multi-tasking multiple apps, not the ability to run any single given app per se.
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Posted: 2003-03-02 17:54:00
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@Winhack
they are both symbian. but of different versions. it depends which is optimized for which versions of os.
This message was posted from a WAP device
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Posted: 2003-03-02 18:57:00
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I windows at least. Multitasking is very ram dependent in my experience. And the p800 has a clear upperhand in that compartment. More than twice the amount of available ram.
And for example decoding mp3s takes up some cpu power(I remember my 486/66 MHz machine couldn't do it).
So if are surfing the web while listening to mp3s this might become speed hungry...
I'm fairly confident that the p800 will have a upperhand in this... Unless they make a very efficient program for the 3650...
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Posted: 2003-03-02 23:21:00
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I think that, as the S60 UI is smaller and more simple than UIQ, thus requiering less power to run, the 106Mhz processor is strong enough to handle the programs written for that particular platform and multitasking shouldn't be any worse than UIQ and a 156Mhz processor.
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Posted: 2003-03-02 23:34:00
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Now the real question here... is how long is each of the processors pipelines... That is why a 1ghz Powermac can kick a 2.0 ghz's but in terms of speed...
You see the pentiums pipeline (tunnel) has twice the speed limit of the powermacs (double megahertz rating) but it is twice and a bit times as long (7 vs. 20 pipeline stages) - but when processors make a mistake in their guessing game (they try and prepare themselves for what you are going to do next) the pipeline drains, so the pentium gets farther and father behind in results because it's pipeline takes longer to fill.
don't know if i make sense... i can post a video later for you guys if i can find it. However this really is off topic - because as somebody mentioned both the processors are the same (i take that persons word on it) and therefore they 'should' under normal circumstances have the same number of pipeline stages.
[ This Message was edited by: dantec on 2003-03-02 23:05 ]
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Posted: 2003-03-03 00:04:00
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I have been sitting here thinking about which device I should purchase, the 3650 or P800 as well as moving over to Sprint for the Sanyo 8100 (using T-Mobile right now). For the past year I have used a Treo 270 and the one thing I cannot understand, is why there are not new products coming out with thumboards?
I was hesitant before I got the Treo because of it being a wider device than most phones. While not perfect, I have really enjoyed the Treo over the last year. Using the thumboard for emails and SMSing is so much easier than both options that the 3650 and P800 are offering.
Besides Blackberry, Danger and Palm, why no thumboards from Nokia and SonyEricsson on phones? Is is because of size? The Treo is really not that much bigger than either device mentioned above.
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Posted: 2003-05-02 20:39:00
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Nokia has the 9210i communicator.
No bluetooth, GPRS, etc however.
The primary reason is lack of demand.
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Posted: 2003-05-02 20:55:00
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