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Prom1
Thanx a lot for the info,very interesting post.
Razec
??? The TI OMAP3430 is able to encode and decode HD though, thats why SAMSUNG were able to improve the sound quality in video recording to AAC format in a firmware update, the reason why they had it as AMR im sure was to reduce memory consumption, cause im sure recording in full HD takes a chunk of memory, especialy if you have just a 8gb or 16gb memory card/mass storage, otherwise the OmniaHD can handle HD just fine. When looking at all these CPUs would you REALY be able to tell whether your phone runs on a TI OMAP3430, Qualcomm Snapdragon OR Hummingbird??? I think it will realy depend on how well the software/OS of the phone is optimized to work with the CPU. Just look at the N97, its realy fast and able to handle multiple tasks plus the widgets without a slowdown yet it runs on a little Freescale cpu at 434MHz. The OmniaHD is more than fast enough at 600MHz, i think they could actualy bring that down to 450MHz and it would still be fast, MAYBE a better GPU would be nice but like i said would you REALY be able to tell eg. If it had the Snapdragon? Symbians dont need such high clockrates, i shake my head when i see 1GHz CPUs on a phone, its simply not necessary,atleast not a Symbian phone,but anyway thats just my opinion.
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Posted: 2009-08-08 09:08:58
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On 2009-08-07 23:01:00, jj03 wrote:
@dups! . I disagree with your 'people are begining to realize how pathetic s60 is' remark.. Not everybody gets a semi everytime some geek refines a ui to wěthin an inch of its life. Can you even justify that stupid remark? I doubt it..thankfully people like you are in the minority on this forum..
If I understood what you wrote I would gladly justify my 'stupid' remark!
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Posted: 2009-08-08 09:25:19
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dups.. Go ahead and justify your remark..why is it pathetic?. . I'm waiting.
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Posted: 2009-08-08 15:55:00
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Firstly, you need to read posts carefully before jumping on someone's throat!
Secondly, there is nowhere in my post where I wrote S60 was or is pathetic!
Now, if you paid attention you would realise that I wrote 'S60 touch'.
For starters, this is an Os that isn't touch optimized and was largely pushed towards this direction by the likes of Apple. As a touch os it does badly. Then there's the issue of S60 TOUCH being ram intensive.
Both the N97 and 5800 were given a meagre 128MB and that leaves them with less ram after boot- think multitask and speed. Samsung have realized this hence they gave the Omnia HD 256MB of ram.
When you compare S60 TOUCH with the likes of the Iphone, Android and Palm's Os it looses badly. S60 TOUCH was meant to fill the gap before a real touch ui from Symbian comes into effect. Nokia noted that they couldn't compete with S60 as it was that is why they decided on it being open source.
The beauty of a touch interface is its user experience and in that area S60 TOUCH is pathetic. Of course if you haven't tried anything else and stuck with it it is the best there is.
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Posted: 2009-08-08 16:36:47
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Dups
I dont know about the about the other points,but S60Touch or S60v5 is not RAM intensive, well it is i guess when compared to S60v3 but still not that bad when compared to others. Both 5800xm and N97 have around 50mb RAM available at boot up and its enough. Speed is no problem either in both, they run very well considering their hardware. I often get to use a 5800xm and an iPhone3G, and i have a very hard time deciding which is better. If the 5800 had a Capacitive screen it would be so much better i must say,but its still very user friendly and easy to get used to. The iPhone on the other hand you can tell was built for touch from the ground-up and just feels very smooth in general,then again Apple have had plenty of time and updates to improve it. What i hate is the "over simplicity" it doesnt make me want to learn more, cause everything is just there, and what i hate in the 5800xm is the idea having to double click in some options/menus,it makes no sense,i hope the OmniaHD is not like that.
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Posted: 2009-08-08 17:09:49
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Yes GUCCI, that is what I meant that compared to v3 it is ram intensive.
Damn man! You hate the simplicity of the Iphone? The short time I played on I loved it. I'm actually hoping for more of the same from Android.
But can you imagine how efficient the N97 and 5800 would be with more ram? I'm by no means saying they are slow but could be better.
My point about this whole thing was that S60 touch is a stop gap before Symbian^4 comes and I don't think it does well compare to what's available now.
That's another major reason why I don't even think of Satio as a potential buy.
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Posted: 2009-08-08 18:04:11
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Dups
Yep, its not that i totaly hate it, but just the fact that everything is there and im not encouraged to go out explore and learn more, also having to always deal with iTunes for me is a pain.
I totaly get what you mean about S60TOUCH. Its definetly not as smooth and fluid as OSX or Android, but its getting there, its definetly Beta stage right now. Yep N97 especialy could have had better hardware, considering its price, the 5800xm is understandable though IMO it was a starting point and had to be cheap as possible to compete. But having NOKIA and others backing up S60 right now im sure it will be good when 5530xm, and Satio arrive. Apple's OSX wasnt so good in the beginning either neither was Android, only now with the Hero and i7500 is it gaining real ground.
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Posted: 2009-08-08 18:26:16
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On 2009-08-08 18:04:11, Dups! wrote:
Yes GUCCI, that is what I meant that compared to v3 it is ram intensive.
Damn man! You hate the simplicity of the Iphone? The short time I played on I loved it. I'm actually hoping for more of the same from Android.
But can you imagine how efficient the N97 and 5800 would be with more ram? I'm by no means saying they are slow but could be better.
My point about this whole thing was that S60 touch is a stop gap before Symbian^4 comes and I don't think it does well compare to what's available now.
That's another major reason why I don't even think of Satio as a potential buy.
But S60v5 is upgradable to Symbian^2 and Symbian^4 isn't coming before 2011 at least which mean that all the phone you could buy this year will be totally outdated before...
Edit: No equaliser presets unlike what was shown by se-community's prototype preview bad move from SE not gonna get this one
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Posted: 2009-08-08 18:42:51
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^^Dude, its a freaking smartphone. Just download a bloody player and use it with equalizers.
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Posted: 2009-08-09 03:45:52
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Hmmm... Anybody raised this question regarding whether dust will get into the screen easily??? I hope it does not..
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Posted: 2009-08-09 05:37:59
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