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@aqualung, welcome to the club

Yes i remember that thread, but i never made this test on a P1
Mib1800, ok, before opening i get 54mb free, after opening i get 53,1 free, then i close it and get 54mb free again...
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:00:24
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I have 71.2 mb before, 68.2mb when messaging is open (i.e. a 3mb loss), and 71.2mb again when closed
I can only assume this is related directly with the amount of messages as I have 5 email accounts including the whole of my outlook inbox content (which is not insubstantial). I have almost no texts but then they would consume nothing like the email sizes I get
in task manager messaging shows as 168kb
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:06:30
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I have 48 emails stored (sync email), and some thousad smsīs. Besides the sync email account, i have gmail and another pop3 account .
I did open some sms and emails, and RAM went down to 52,3...then i closed it, and it went to 53,6...so, some RAM was indeed lost, but nothing as big as those numbers...i guess it really depends on what you have on your phone
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:11:51
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On 2007-12-10 17:00:24, ares wrote:
@aqualung, welcome to the club

Yes i remember that thread, but i never made this test on a P1
Mib1800, ok, before opening i get 54mb free, after opening i get 53,1 free, then i close it and get 54mb free again...
I don't know where you look guys
My SwissManager says on my P990:
10,5 MB free
I open Messages app
7,7 Mb free
Close the Messages
10,5 MB free
The same values appear on Status info
What SwissManager shows (this 242k or whatever) is bullsh... I mean it's not corresponding with the real usage of the apps.
When used harder, it even takes more.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2007-12-10 16:16 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:12:47
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lol, sometime passed, and now when i open swiss manager (and sman), and its already reporting 53,9...it seems some of the RAM lost was regained
its clear though, that all this looses value on a phone with plenty of RAM
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:17:33
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@ares, but I think my point in reference to this topic is that this issue is irrelevant as the amount of memory seems almost certainly to be directly related to the amount of data (i.e. messages), and demand paging won't deal with that
so its probably time to move on to another part of the discussion
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:18:06
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@masseur:
here is the situation with N95.
I have about 1800+ messages in Inbox
Open Inbox+Show msg headers: Ram used = 0.4Mb
Show msg detail Ram used = 0.7Mb
Open Email Inbox with headers (~400 headers): Ram used = 1.0Mb
Retrieve Email itself + open wifi connection: RAM used = 2.0Mb
[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2007-12-10 16:24 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:22:50
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@mib1800
So you see, all changes when you open anything.
In P990 when opening mail, from 10,5MB free
6,4MB is left.
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:26:51
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ok, 1800 texts... lets say they are each at max size (unlikely) that would be 1800*160 = 288kb. my outlook inbox mirrored on my P1 has 6 messages of 500kb+ (one at 1.2mb - my new IT contract

) as well as several at the 100kb level and many more at 50kb+
like I said, looking at the data none of this has any thing to do with this "demand paging" topc as it is wholly data related.
The true test would be to delete all my email accounts so that messaging just started as empty for comparison, but its really not worth all that as the numbers now speak for themselves, do they not?
this really is not a demand paging issue
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Posted: 2007-12-10 17:34:50
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yep. I agree with you on this.....until of course symbian v9.5? where it said that it has demand paging for file system.
but web browser is one where there is significant RAM usage reduction on N95 v20 (in order of 30%)
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Posted: 2007-12-10 18:02:35
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