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I don't get why networks have to interfere with the firmware. Why not take a page from O2s book and just put a start up logo and possibly even lock the phone.
At the end of the day, it just starts to put customers off to revert to SIM free phones.
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Posted: 2005-06-06 19:59:35
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The networks mess around with the phone so they can say no matter which orange phone in the future it will have easy access menus.
Lots of customers want simplicity and not something different.
eg Nokia, People buy nokias for the ease of use of menus, 95% of Nokia phones have the same menus, so when the customer updates to a new Nokia, the battle of understanding your phone is half way there.
Switch to a SE or Samsung, and guess what, cusotmer gets confused doesnt use half of the functions of the phone and will prob go back to a Nokia in the end.
This is where the networks step in. So we have Nokia, SE and Samsung. 3 Very different phones, but with simular icons in the menu. Customer is comfortable with the phone, ok the phones will do different things but the customer is happy to go wandering in the menus, why because it isnt to much of a difference to what they see in the first place.
Good Customer Stratergy, Customer thinking and guess what the customer is happy and will buy another phone with the same network because he or she knows what they are getting.
My Mum is 64, I changed her from a Nokia to a Samsung, took me a while to learn her the menus but it the end she know uses Wap, MMS, SMS, Camera and even phone. I then showed her my new k750i. Her words oh the icons are like mine. So already shes happy with the phone and not frightend to use it, even tho its a different brand and look.
It doesnt bother me, I just like a phone to do what the manufacture intended it to, so Orange have changed the icons, but I still have a fully functional phone. Orange dont lock anything on the phone, they just change the icons to the generic Orange all phones have now.
A bit long winded but got there in the end. And she has a samsung (before any body starts) as it looked nice and fits in her handbag pocket!! lol
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2005-06-06 23:08 ]
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Posted: 2005-06-07 00:06:06
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Does the Orange branded K750i have a feature like my Nokia 6310i (soon to be retired) which lets you know via an icon if you have an answerphone message waiting? I find the O2 habit of ringing or texting you to be quite intrusive.
I am in the unusual position of having used an O2 K750i for a few days, but am returning it and getting an Orange one instead. When I called Orange to get my PAC code they offered me such a good deal that I had to take it. I found the O2 menus to be crisp and clear and easy to use whereas the Orange menus look slightly dated. However, if the functionality is retained then I don't think its a deal-breaker.
[ This Message was edited by: eeperman on 2005-06-06 23:26 ]
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Posted: 2005-06-07 00:25:31
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Orange and T-mobile uses the same way to show you a answer phone message.
02 and Voda uses a different voice mail system which sms you or rings you.
No matter what Orange handset you buy you will always get the Voice mail icon.
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Posted: 2005-06-07 00:29:22
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Excellent - I prefer the Orange system. Looks like I'll have to bite the bullet with the crappier icons. It beggars belief that a company would put so much time and effort into messing around with a tried and tested sytem that another (arguably more qualified) company have put in place. I hope that some of this discontent is filtering back to Orange as apart from this I have no problem at all with them.
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Posted: 2005-06-07 00:38:24
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things do get filtered back to Orange and i do know All the networks look at this site.
At least Orange mainly listen to there cusotmers, K700i and more customer complained about not able toset own shortcuts.
Now with the K750i you can
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Posted: 2005-06-07 00:43:33
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Gutted ;( I can't believe the second rate graphics they've used on the K750. Mines due tomorrow but I'm thinking of cancelling it and ordering from 02
Can anyone confirm that an Orange sim will work in an 02 K750?
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Posted: 2005-06-07 10:24:34
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I can't confirm about O2 being unlocked, but I don't see what you do if it is. Do you have a orange sim card that you want to keep? Then what do you do with the o2 sim card?
I must be a bit stupid! But surely you don't want to be paying 2 contracts?
[ This Message was edited by: itstomhi on 2005-06-07 12:44 ]
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Posted: 2005-06-07 13:36:47
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Meh, the Orange branding isn't too bad... and considering it's heavily subsidised, do you really want to pay an extra £300 for a sim-free version, just for prettier icons?
Don't get me wrong, as I do prefer the original icons:
the orange icons are all similar colours, and to me are indistinguishable from each other at a quick glance... the original icons are colour coded, so I can quickly identify (red = phonebook), etc...
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Posted: 2005-06-07 13:45:46
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itstomhi - Reason I ask is because when I've finished with the phone my wife has my hand-me-downs. She just puts her orange sim card in there and gets to keep her number and contract.
She had her first phone about six years ago, when Orange were doing a pay up front deal, whereas you pay about £90, you get the phone (which was a Nokia 3310 at the time) and for that you also get all your line rental. All you pay for is your calls so she only ever gets a bill of about £4 - £6 a month.
No worries I think I'll order the 02 and get it unlocked in 12 months.
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Posted: 2005-06-07 14:36:38
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