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@ergus,
You seem to not understand that there is a place for both devices. Just because you like the Swiss Army Knife approach, some could not care less. The camera's on the phones are not good enough for me but they are okay in a pinch. I forgot to mention that I use the k800i and the HBH-DS970 when I want to go running or some type of sport training, but as an everyday phone, the M600i is the better choice. I like the fact that I can bring a few gigs worth of family videos, TV series, and movies, not to mention music with me. No phone can match this currently and until they break the 50 gig mark with flash memory, phones will always be in a niche market when compared to dedicated media players.
As I said you are mixing apples and oranges. You can not compare a mobile phone and a dedicated media player. With this logic, you can say that the iPod loses because it does not have a phone.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:44:16
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"You can not compare a mobile phone and a dedicated media player. With this logic, you can say that the iPod loses because it does not have a phone."
Exactly!
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:54:22
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well the walkman phone is a dedicated mp3 player too. its just dont make sense to carry such a large volume of songs when u dont even listen to it all. its like if a person likes reading books he's not going to bring the whole library of books with him so he can have choices, he'll bring his favourite one or one that he hasnt read yet. and y would u want to carry some many devices when there's an all in one device that does a better job.
[ This Message was edited by: marktang on 2006-10-18 06:20 ]
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Posted: 2006-10-18 05:28:28
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Well said Marktang - that's a nice comparison. I'm so glad you got my point - and the phone's sound is perfectly comparable to the iPod's. I hope that everyone can understand that and move on - the phones are entertainment systems all in one and they do more than a descent job
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Posted: 2006-10-18 06:03:55
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On 2006-10-18 05:28:28, marktang wrote:
well the walkman phone is a dedicated mp3 player too. its just dont make sense to carry such a large volume of songs when u dont even listen to it all. its like if a person likes reading books he's not going to the whole library of books with him so he can have choices, he'll bring his favourite one or one that he hasnt read yet. and y would u want to carry some many devices when there's an all in one device that does a better job.
Now you are talking portability. In this case the iPod (or any other dedicated music device) wins hands down. I have about 60 audio books that I use as reference material or as entertainment. The thing about your argument is that you claim to speak for the masses while I speak for the people such as myself that are quite comfortbable with both devices. In my opinion you are willing to settle for less while I am not. A 3.2 megapixel camera is not my idea of adequate. It is something to use in a pinch. Comparable to the fat girl at closing time. Not your first choice but better than nothing when nothing else is available. I like having my entire music library with me as I travel from country to country. Try traveling with 3000 CD's.
At the end of the day it all comes down to choices. People choose what works for them.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 07:31:46
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Storage is for storing stuff. Sowhen you need them, you get to retrieve it right away. But 6000 songs???!! I mean i can't even name 2000 songs right now without having a headache.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 15:11:37
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Now you are talking portability. In this case the iPod (or any other dedicated music device) wins hands down. I have about 60 audio books that I use as reference material or as entertainment. The thing about your argument is that you claim to speak for the masses while I speak for the people such as myself that are quite comfortbable with both devices. In my opinion you are willing to settle for less while I am not. A 3.2 megapixel camera is not my idea of adequate. It is something to use in a pinch. Comparable to the fat girl at closing time. Not your first choice but better than nothing when nothing else is available. I like having my entire music library with me as I travel from country to country. Try traveling with 3000 CD's.
At the end of the day it all comes down to choices. People choose what works for them.
I think that everyone is vying for different points. Everyone has their own needs and reasons for that need. You have your audiobooks you need for reference so an iPod (something with large storage) is useful too you.
My line of work requires me to run around a lot. I ended up buying a P990i, because I was tired of running around carrying a mobile, a PDA, a camera, AND an mp3 player (was actually using CD player). I don't have that many pockets dagnagit! Not only that, I have to bring 4 chargers for all their different batteries! so when I finally decided I wanted an mp3 player, I opted against an iPod, and went for an all-in-one phone.
I also rollerblade / skate quite a bit. I like to listen to music while I do it. If my phone rings, it means that I have to stop skating and pull over somewhere, stop the mp3 player, take out my mobile, then listen to it. Then when the conversation is finished, put my phone away, plug myself back into the mp3 player, and push off again. Now I can do everything at the push of a button.
So it depends on whom you're speaking with. If you're talking to a commuter who spends an hour to and from work daily, then they probably want an iPod w/ video. For yourself, someone who needs to use audio books for referencing, something w/ large storage space is necessary. For someone like me, I need convenience.
~LB
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Posted: 2006-10-18 15:37:54
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well if u know how to use the k800's camera properly than it can be as good as a normal 5mp camera. unless u like carrying a professional camera and then a professional audio device with you everywhere. that's y they make all in one devices. so that you dont have to carry so much stuff with you around. if u want the best than u might as well carry a hifi system with you cuz ipod's sound quality is definately not the best.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 23:40:37
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On 2006-10-18 23:40:37, marktang wrote:
well if u know how to use the k800's camera properly than it can be as good as a normal 5mp camera. unless u like carrying a professional camera and then a professional audio device with you everywhere. that's y they make all in one devices. so that you dont have to carry so much stuff with you around. if u want the best than u might as well carry a hifi system with you cuz ipod's sound quality is definately not the best.
Dude,
Go back and read what you said. A 3.2 megapixel camera can function as good as a 5 megapixel camera. Do you really believe that? If so, please enroll in some logic courses and I am not trying to put you down but this has got to be the most non-sensical statement I have ever heard. Hell, what did I buy my Nikon D80 for when I can go buy a regular 6 megapixel camera. It's the same.
If you have read anything I have posted, I stated several times that I have a k800i (sound quality no where near as good as my iPod and my Etymotic or Ultimate Ears Headphones), just for the few, times when I do not have my camera with me. I go through new phones no less than 5 or 6 times a year so it is not a matter of money to me, but a matter of quality. Maybe you have never heard good sound because you use the stock headphones or something but your statement about 3.2 being as good as a 5 megapixel camera is nothing short of laughable.
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Posted: 2006-10-19 02:19:23
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hey i dont care how much money u have u dont have to rub it in my face on how much money u dont. and how do u know i dont have money. im just saying the pictures quality on the k800 if u know how to use it. of course it cant replace a professional digi cam. if u know how to use the k800's camera then the pictures will come out really well.
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Posted: 2006-10-19 03:21:07
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