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Quote:and if you added all the Nokia complaint threads together they wouldn't come close to the P990 threads.

here at esato??? yes, your´re right, go figure, it seems to be just the biggest SE user community forum in the internet

now if you go to forums with real nokia users, and not propaganda agents like yourself and mib1800, well, not so much

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Great posts and obviously i agree with your objective analysis, but i really wouldn't bother debating with people that can no longer see the Wood for the trees it is pointless.

wow, intra-fanboy debate, lots of love being changed, only mario is missing

and yes, both of you are normaly pointless, tough extremely amusing

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[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2007-03-01 18:10 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-01 19:07:33
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I won't quote anything in this post as i'm posting after ares....
So where are we? ah yes...
@Dogmann
From the above posts I can clearly smell fanboys are admitting that can make problems, but why are you telling again and agian that they're suggesting can't make any problem ? Strange! They're defending because of ur worthless downgrading of the units of and UIQ ( i think a cool avatar of UIQ would b nice ).
and about GPS navigation system, isn't it obvious, it's still mostly for 1st world countries and not much covered yet ?
and about affordibility of P990i, when it was not affordable it was faulty (See? I admit) when it became much affordable people didn't trust it (See? again ) but now it has become stable as it should be (or most likely it), and you can see it's price again goin upwards in e-bay ...

@All nokia fanboys
I'm not very good about historical data (so there may be mistakes)
1. which one of Nokia & SE has come up with a camera phone first ?
ans: Must b Nokia?
2. which one of Nokia & SE has come up with a mp3 integrated phone first?
ans: Must b Nokia?
now,
which is STILL the best 2mpx cam? I say K750i (what do u?)
between K800i, N73, and N93 which 1's cam is the best ? I say K800i (prove me otherwise, i'll show my aces then )
more-over
Music quality...till before N73, did nokia manage to give even a slight taste of what is called "BASS" ? ( I haven't heard N73, so i donno)....if you say yes, i'll suggest you better got to an ENT specialist.......which is better to be provided? complete "treble" w/o "bass" or both "trble" AND "bass" and with a gr8 music quality (i rather not compare it with ipod though)

Nokia made their first gsm handset in 1992 and afaaik it's 2001/2 for , and yet within these 4/5 years is making you nokia fanboys badmouthing about just to hold a position for nokia .....wait some few years, we'll see where it goes...after all from all these, we the consumers are getting better and better handsets and ripped of course.

and this thread is about UIQ and TS, u nokia fanboys should enter here if u've used a P990i with january's f/w(at least I admit, mostly it was faulty b4) or a nokia 6708, then at least u'll get to know how's it's like to use a touchscreen device or even UIQ. Don't judge P990i for what it was, judge it for what it's now. cause it's now showing is definitely NOT killing UIQ, and that's all this thread is about.

I know these are all off-topic but u're bragging these into this thread...so...

and just as an emotional logic (u mi8 say), imagine yourself into a croporate office and while in a meeting bringin out a N73 or ok...N93 from your jacket pocket
now
imaging bringing out a P990i.......it's a complete different class, it's not only a smart-phone, it's a PDA with business class look....which i mi8 add the E90 has but yet again it fails to bring TS....sorry fellas u b sticked with S60 and will be missing TS for a VERY long time for what i see, OR, u'll b missing all other features (like 6708)

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[ This Message was edited by: chamak on 2007-03-01 21:48 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-01 22:44:25
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@ares

Quote:now if you go to forums with real nokia users, and not propaganda agents like yourself and mib1800, well, not so much

Can you want to show us a Nokia forum where there is an endless post of problems of ONE phone.

Quote:and yes, both of you are normaly pointless, tough extremely amusing

It is pointless to you because the truth hurts you too much that you need to stick your head in the sand.


@chamak

Quote:between K800i, N73, and N93 which 1's cam is the best ? I say K800i (prove me otherwise, i'll show my aces then )

Who can better show you this than your peers (i.e. phone buyers). In the following:-

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n73-cam-en.shtml

A survey was done (note: surveyee does NOT know which photo was taken by which phone so brand bias can be discounted),

Result is:-
50% picked N73 photos as the best
30% picked N93
20% picked K800

Quote:imaging bringing out a P990i.......it's a complete different class, it's not only a smart-phone, it's a PDA with business class look

Just imagine how an ass you will look when it hangs (very high chance) and you need to pull out the battery to reboot it.



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Posted: 2007-03-02 01:23:28
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Hi mib1800,
You missed having to explain why you haven't answered any calls, mails or sms because you have forgotten to turn your phone on/ off to receive them. Admittedly that may no longer be a problem but it was.

Please don't insult the N93 in the same breath as the P990 there not in the same division as for N95 and E90. The gap just got bigger. The P990 WHEN announced was class leading tech but the time it launched and was stable it is so out dated it is actually quite funny.

Whatever any of you say SE took to long to develop and release the P990 and 7 months after launch for it to reach stability is a joke. What ever it may be able to do now it's over SE will release new devices as soon as they can to get your money and try and compete.

So far there not doing a very good job are they? Otherwise why are all the SE fan boys whining we want new phones we want better specs?

Ares and all again we are not discussing the pro or cons of S60 we are trying to discuss UIQ which part of that simple statement can you not understand!!! Who cares what problems S60 may or may not have if you want to discuss that start a thread called the problems and benefits of S60. This thread is are SE killing UIQ try and keep on topic i know its hard for you but please do try.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-03-02 02:57 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-02 03:47:02
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@ Ares

What absolute rubbish how can you even say such things do you really think people are blind and can' read?

Go to
http://www.howardforums.com/index.php?
http://my-symbian.com/main/index.php
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/

and read the pages and pages of P990 problems and complaints and the search the same forums for Nokia Complaints yes of course thier are some as not everyone's happy with thier devices and some are definitely bad units. This happens with every bit of complicated tech it's life it's not perfect but the difference in the scale and amount of problems for one niche market device is truly outstanding yet another achievement it could well live with out.

Marc



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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-03-02 03:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-02 03:58:56
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@mib1800
Why are you still thinking that i'll need to restart my P990i in my office ? it WAS an issue not IS.

and about your consumer point of view about cameras....i'll tell you what happened...they DIDN'T know what was the real situation there!
it's definite that N73 pics looks WAAAY cooler than K800 one's but that's because it's over modified by phones' f/w. try reading these reviews....u'll know what i mean:

http://www.gsmarena.com/kg920_k800_n73_photo-review-125.php
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/3-megapixel-camera-phones-comparison-D900-K800-N73-N80-N93-review-r_1520.html

Now u MAY prefer over saturated, blurred(noise-reduction) then sharpened alien-like pictures, but i like my gf's marron lipstic as it was, not turned into blood-redded dracula color.....but of-course it's personal preference....

@dogmann
yes u've given the messaeg VERY CLEARLY that should implement Januray's f/w when it was released, but how many times are you gonna repeat that SINGLE POINT? and if you say P990i is outdated....i certainly don't agree with you. To me...it'll be up2date till nokia come up with a TS S60 device or gives us nother Pxxx model....'z P990i is not just a smart-phone, it's a PDA.......beat that!
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Marc

Sorry, how long was it from announcement to release again? Rushed?

A successor for the P910i was always in the pipeline wasn't it?

It just seems like there is this neverending feud going on regarding the P990i with no end to the debate in sight.

When was it announced again - the year before last? Then released roughly six months ago?

You must absolutely despise the people who ever dreamed up the P990i to be banging on about it this long.


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[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2007-03-02 15:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-02 15:01:06
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cough cough n80, n80ie.. lol after 15 billion firmware updates battery still sucks...and ram usage is insufficient to surf....

but at the same time i think the p990 is a piece of junk

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[ This Message was edited by: dragoneye on 2007-03-02 18:52 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-02 17:42:54
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@goldenface

So why was it released in the firmware it first launched with? and why has it taken 7 months to even begin to resemble the device it should of been @ launch.
You have the answers you tell me? as far as i am concerned who ever approved the P990 as fit for release needs to be committed. SE took a liberty releasing the P990 in the state they did and all you guys want to do is thank them for a brilliant job, sorry but i just don't get it.

Marc
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Posted: 2007-03-02 17:58:16
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We all know you don't get it.

This message was posted from a W900i
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Posted: 2007-03-02 18:52:50
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