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On 2007-06-11 23:32:33, Trevor wrote:
I have had a P900 that is about to die.
I would've gotten a P990 except that i'm a mac user and wouldn't have been able to sync it.
I've been planning to get an iphone just because i'm tired of waiting. To be honest, i'm not sure i'll like data entry on the iphone but figured at least it'll sync.
Does anyone know if the P1 will be syncing seamlessly with the mac or not?
what would you guys suggest?
SE has said they will not support Mac. I switched from SE to Nokia because Nokia actively supports Mac in Symbian. Second, I would wait for the second iPhone that is sure to come.
By the way, any SE fan is invited to check these specs and see what phone SE has or will release can match.
http://europe.nokia.com/A4397282 - E90
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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2007-06-11 23:08 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-11 23:49:29
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@sapporobaby
If you wanna compare specs, SE will never win against 'King Of Specs'Nokia, but you don't see SE dropping dead because of their 'chronic lack of technology'. It's always down to what people need, like how you need it to be compatible with Mac and like most people can't really afford HSDPA. Right now, more people need Music than HSDPA (a bummer for me!), more audio than video and more lightness rather than features. How do I know this is what people need at the moment? SE's rising market share (and perhaps Samsung's?). I think SE's decision for the '4 year old technology' P1 was based on this for which P1 is still very powerful and feature packed to many (not for me though), supporting GPS should you opt for it, 3G high speed data transfer, WLAN, Business Card Scanner, push mail, print quality Camera, obscene amount of RAM, open platform, Touch Screen and all in a light, thin shell. And most of us are Windows users (now dude, let's not go off topic on this one). Not for me but this is more than enough for many IMHO.
[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2007-06-12 01:01 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-12 01:37:46
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I will choose N95 because I have a P990. P1i is only a minor upgrade from P990. In addition, S60 has much more software available.
and I think 5mp camera, tv out, GPS and EDGE are really good features.
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Posted: 2007-06-12 02:54:43
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@mode
What are you talking about HSDPA is part of a Data package they don't charge you extra it is the next step in the 3G high speed Data you are happy to boast is in the P1 except in the P1 it is slower.
As for more people want music than HSPDA not in a Data device they don't and we are talking about smart phones here, it may annoy you to know that the Music Player in the N series is excellent and in most models every bit as good as the Walkman phones minus the low volume problem and the also the hiss problem with some models. Although some have complained of a hiss on some N95's also so no one is saying Nokia is perfect either.
The extra Ram in the P1 is also great but this is a necessity rather than luxury and fixes the severe Ram problems encountered due to Symbian 9.1 which is particularly bad in the P990 due to a leak which is still present and runs @approx .5mb a day. The next Nokia Business smart phone is also launching with an extra 64mb Ram as it is also needed there and will aid performance the rest of the tech is at the next level all of it. So if you are going to compare products compare generation to generation. P1 to E90 there is really no comparison to be made except that they both have 3.2 Mega Pixel Camera's and 128mb Ram and they are smart phones.
Hopefully this next SE announcement will bring something more interesting as it is rumoured there will be a couple of HSDPA devices and that the P990 successor will be getting a better processor and i would hope all the new UIQ3 devices get also, only a couple of days and we should have some answers.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-06-12 02:41 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-12 03:39:27
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if i were you i'll better wait for the two "to be released phones: iphone and P1" explore those two before making a final decision. i was somehow wanted to think that SE has made very good work on improving UIQ in the person of P1 and we'll find it out when we used it. same as iphone imho.
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Posted: 2007-06-12 04:42:26
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i started this thread to gain insights on the 4 phones models, not to start some bashing and flame wars....if you can't put any meaningful insight, then please just avoid posting and leave them to the others who do....
...to those with much to say, thanks...i might end up with a p990 for a couple reasons
1. i got my fiance an n80 and it couldn't even measure up to my old p910i, so I'm nervous on the n95. and the battery issue is a big problem, as i use data alot.
2. p990 is cheaper than p1i right now and i kinda like the old p series design (flip)
3. p990 and p1i are basically the same, except for more ram and higher camera, or did i miss anything important?
4. I've never tried the n95 but i've never been inclined to the nokia UI, personal preference i guess
5. i like the added functionality of a touchscreen.
6. iphone...uhmmm....dunno what the price will e...might need to sell my left nut for it? stil untested?
btw, any pics of the e series phones from nokia? I've never really seen them...any reviews?
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[ This Message was edited by: bangsters on 2007-06-12 05:01 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-12 05:57:07
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@Saporobaby and Dogmann
You proved to me a few things:
Suporababy it is true in saying that ignorance is bliss. Dogmann at least admited that N95 has 20mb free ram left for usage while you are talking nonsence with 50 mb. You are only making a parade out of your ignorance. If you both think 20mb is as good as P1 80mb than what can I say.
Dogmann hardly waited to talk about E90 80mb ram as it is so special, and now he cleverly hide that fact in our discussion comparing ram and multitasking capacity of N95 and P1.
Dogmann who talked about P990, did you actually read my posts here?Also I didnt say N95 is weak but that P1 is a beast regarding multitasking and that N95 cant compare with it in that area. Your post prove me that your hate for SE is deeply rooted. All you said comparing other technical aspects is true but here we are talking about ram and multitasking.
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Posted: 2007-06-12 07:26:44
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On 2007-06-12 07:26:44, koto wrote:
@Saporobaby and Dogmann
You proved to me a few things:
Suporababy it is true in saying that ignorance is bliss. Dogmann at least admited that N95 has 20mb free ram left for usage while you are talking nonsence with 50 mb. You are only making a parade out of your ignorance. If you both think 20mb is as good as P1 80mb than what can I say.
Oh here we go again. I thought that I had corrected you and educated you on the memory issue. Here goes again. The P1
has to have that much ram because it
still has a memory leak. Meaning, the phone runs out of ram while just sitting there doing nothing. Nokia S60 does not have this problem. The N95 can mulit-task simply because it makes better use of its ram while the UIQ has to load up as much as possible so it does not, say it with me now,
Crash due to lack of memory. That 20 meg memory you listed is actually a number after the phone is operation, not total ram. Go back and read my memory class I gave you a few posts earlier. If it will make you feel better and hopefully educate you, I will post a snapshop my usable ram and maybe, just maybe you will understand how things work. OK?
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Posted: 2007-06-12 08:07:11
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On 2007-06-12 01:37:46, mode wrote:
@sapporobaby
If you wanna compare specs........ I think SE's decision for the '4 year old technology' P1 was based on this for which P1 is still very powerful and feature packed to many (not for me though), supporting GPS should you opt for it, 3G high speed data transfer, WLAN, Business Card Scanner, push mail, print quality Camera, obscene amount of RAM, open platform, Touch Screen and all in a light, thin shell. And most of us are Windows users (now dude, let's not go off topic on this one). Not for me but this is more than enough for many IMHO.
[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2007-06-12 01:01 ]
You made some misstatements in your post as far as I can see.
1. Print quality camera. 3.2 is not print quality but it will do if this is all you have.
2. Open source. Not sure what you mean here. Do you mean Open Source like Linux.
3. Ram. You better have that much ram or you get the: System Rebooting to Optimize Performance. Remember those? (By the way, the N95 has 50 mb contrary to what Koto thinks)
4. 3G is okay, but HSDPA is much better and no where to be found in the P1.
5. Wifi. 802.11B. I don't need to say more.
The hits go on and on. The bottom line is SE could have done better and didn't. Simple fact. Others are trying and many succeeding. SE has seen that their customer base will settle for less and be happy with it, while Nokia realizes people want real innovative change. You did make an interesting point though and this is very true. No matter how many facts I post or Koto for that matter, it all comes down to what people want. There are SE fans, and Nokia fans and actually this is a good thing. Hopefully this makes them inclined to make better phones in the future.
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[ This Message was edited by: sapporobaby on 2007-06-12 07:20 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-12 08:15:24
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So since you educated me and we can now speak the same language, I ask you once again: Are you claiming that 20mb free ram on your disposal (that you get after N95 fresh reboot) is the same or, as I understand you, even better than 80 mb free ram that P1 have after fresh reboot. Please don't go around, let us stick to the main point.
I provided you with the link to mysymbian which IMO proves that at the moment only E90 and P1 adequately fulfill users's need for ram.
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Posted: 2007-06-12 08:44:41
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