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What I don't get after reading the above (bearing in mind I'm tired and have had a bottle of mulled wine) is "once" I have bought the iPhone all I have to do is enter an 18 month contract!

So therefore I am not agreeing to anything nor signing anything to buy the phone, yet if I want to use it I have to enter the contract?!

So I go to Fords and get me a new focus outright with funds from the bank, after buying it I notice I need fuel, but here's the catch I have to sign a contract with BP to purchase the fuel from them!

Eh?? go figure? As the Regmeister says small claims courts will be hearing a lot about the iphone!
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Posted: 2007-11-11 00:51:34
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http://www.whatmobile.net/forumvb/showthread.php?t=24259

Sorry to burst your I-poo fantasy bubble, but theres literally no one anywhere buying one in the UK except for the initial sales to fanboys on friday.

[ This Message was edited by: Bhavv on 2007-11-10 23:59 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 00:57:04
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Well, it does say quiet clearly on the O2 and Apple web-sites, and on the literature in store, the following:

"Only with a new minimum term 18 month Pay Monthly O2 tariff for iPhone"

"iPhone is activated via iTunes on your PC or Mac. All you need to do is install iTunes, plug iPhone into your PC or Mac and you will be taken through the activation process which includes selecting your tariff and syncing your music, contacts, calendar and bookmarks."

I also overheard sales staff in O2 and CPW telling potential customers it costs £270 plus a minimum £35 per month for 18 months.

So, there's not much you could take to the small claims court with regard to not being able to use the phone you bought. It's pretty clear from the outset you have to activate it and sign-up for the 18 month contract.


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Posted: 2007-11-11 00:58:21
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Hi all'

Seeing if people can force either Apple or 02 to unlock their property is a whole different topic, conveniently located here

http://www.esato.com/board/vi[....]c=155487&start=180#post2153609

Ignore Daedalus85 last post as there's always one, and read as far back as you feel necessary. I am not well so haven't been out but could well be speaking to Apple, 02 and OFCOM on Monday.

Marc


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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-11-10 23:59 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 00:58:42
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http://www.whatmobile.net/forumvb/showthread.php?t=24090

Check out this thread as well - Anyone going to get an iphone? with a poll too.

3 yes
34 no.

Not a lot of people voting I know, but read through the posts on both links and you'll see theres not a lot of people buying the I-phone anywhere.

[ This Message was edited by: Bhavv on 2007-11-11 00:03 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:01:52
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@Bhavv:

Erm... where in that thread does it say anything about sales figures of 10-20 per store - let alone any official sales figures?

I think you're making stuff up again!

Sorry to burst your I-poo fantasy bubble, but theres literally no one anywhere buying one in the UK except for the initial sales to fanboys on friday.

Erm.. you're the one who said each store sold 10-20 iPhones - not me!

[ This Message was edited by: JoolsG4 on 2007-11-11 00:04 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:02:48
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@Jools

I fully appreciate what you are saying, that they make you aware before hand but that still does not make it legal as your are purchasing the phone outside of a contract!

They may well advise you of it but you do not have to sign anything to that effect therefore you are effectively buying a sim free unit to do with what you like, just because they say you have to use what they tell you doesn't mean it will stand up in court!
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:04:53
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I thought I read somewhere that someone asked in the london stores how many they had sold, one had sold 20, the other 10. I'm sure I read it, but anyway, theres problably fewer people then that buying one anyway by the look of it

http://www.whatmobile.net/for[....]ost.php?p=222154&postcount=147

here it is, single post for you to see it.



I'm pretty sure sales figures are only going to fall from here on and not improve.

[ This Message was edited by: Bhavv on 2007-11-11 00:09 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:06:53
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Ok i'll clear this 10-20 phones issue up a bit.

Was speaking to my mate who happens to be a manager of an o2 store in edinburgh and he told me they sold 24 on friday night and today at 3pm when i spoke to him they had sold 12 phones.

Not to shabby really!

oops typo meant 12 not 32 lol
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[ This Message was edited by: Superluminova on 2007-11-11 00:12 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:09:56
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I think when you buy the iPhone you're actually purchasing it on the condition that you do sign-up to the contract in order to use it on O2.

Officially you shouldn't be able to activate the iPhone for use without signing up for the contract. No doubt a hack for that will be coming soon.

But if you choose to break the terms of the purchase - which are made clear before you buy - I don't really see how O2 can be legally liable to unlock the phone for you.

I'm sure Apple and O2's lawyers have covered their asses on this one!!
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Posted: 2007-11-11 01:10:20
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