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spine6 Posts: 453

The p990i will be stable when they released the Sman or the swissmanager pro.. I hope so
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Posted: 2006-10-01 00:23:11
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ares Posts: > 500

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On 2006-09-30 13:33:48, tkao2025 wrote:
Why do people always talk about the touch screen in the P990i? The P990i has a keyboard so the only use I get out of it is opening applications. Unless people are writing with the stylus, it's really not a useful feature.



why do people use mouses with pc and not just the keyboard? why almost all pdas have touch screen and not just keyboard? touch screen is the only thing that emulates a mouse in small devices like this, and there are millions of people that do like it. web browsing is much better with ts, you can draw, play ds type games, besides writing
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Posted: 2006-10-01 03:34:37
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tkao2025 Posts: 166

Quote:why do people use mouses with pc and not just the keyboard? why almost all pdas have touch screen and not just keyboard? touch screen is the only thing that emulates a mouse in small devices like this, and there are millions of people that do like it. web browsing is much better with ts, you can draw, play ds type games, besides writing

Ok that's a ridiculous argument. I've used a lot of different devices and most work fine without taking out the stylus. You can navigate series 60 devices with ease with the # pad. I rarely use the touch screen on my p990i because you can get to most things with the keypad. If you like it that's fine, I'm just arguing the point that it's not necessary. Have you used the new S60 browser? It works quite well just with the navigation key and # pad. The only device I found necessary was a WM5 device and that's because there was not keypad.

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Posted: 2006-10-01 04:28:25
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darky Posts: 299

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On 2006-10-01 03:34:37, ares wrote:
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On 2006-09-30 13:33:48, tkao2025 wrote:
Why do people always talk about the touch screen in the P990i? The P990i has a keyboard so the only use I get out of it is opening applications. Unless people are writing with the stylus, it's really not a useful feature.



why do people use mouses with pc and not just the keyboard? why almost all pdas have touch screen and not just keyboard? touch screen is the only thing that emulates a mouse in small devices like this, and there are millions of people that do like it. web browsing is much better with ts, you can draw, play ds type games, besides writing


well said Ares, a phone without a touchscreen is like a pc without a mouse,

if you're gonna use your phone to play mp3's and send text messages sure you don't need it, but being SMART PHONES and targeted towards BUSINESS PEOPLE we need to do more than play mp3's and send text messages in class,

the keyboard / touchscreen save me 10x the number of buttons I need to press not to mention that alot of the applications I run can't work without them, try typing a couple of pages on the go with t9 and formatting it in word or try to send emails with attachments with a dpad when you have 1000's of files on your machine, and don't get me about you can surf the web just fine with the dpad unless you're browsing simple wap/mobile sites it's a nightmare especially if you have to input data and use more advanced features like databases, a basic scrollwheel on the side will make a world of difference to those who've tried it, how much will that add to the phone price 10$ ? seriously stop saying people are stupid or ridiciluos because they NEED more from their phones, each phone has a target audience what might work for you might not work for anyone else, that said unplug your mouse from the pc and enjoy surfing the web , better yet unplug the keyboard too and use a usb joystick it sounds like fun

p.s. I'm not going nokia or s.e. I'm just talking about phones in general, I don't want anybody to go in fanboy mode on my ass

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[ This Message was edited by: darky on 2006-10-01 05:09 ]
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Posted: 2006-10-01 06:03:21
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Supa_Fly Posts: > 500

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On 2006-09-27 06:00:58, mib1800 wrote:
N95 should be THE device to own in the new year. I think no phone can come close to it for a while. any1 who says otherwise is self-deluding.

I am quite surprise Nokia can pack so much functionality in such a small device.
[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2006-09-27 05:02 ]


> You're self deluding as this phone is JUST announced and wont ship until Q1/07. There are another 3 more Qtr's of 2007 for other manufacturer's to announce similar devices. Nokia announced the N80, yet other phones came out in the same year. 2 major things the N95 is missing is 802.11n (which wont be ratified until 2008 but manufacturers are shipping hardware (firmware upgradeable) that can support it. Think 150Mbps instead of 54Mbps for Ad-Hoc. Another feature is Digital Terrestial Broadcasted TV something already fronted by SE & Nokia (N92); yet missing in this N95? Hmmm.

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On 2006-09-27 14:18:18, Waka wrote:To say the N95 is not comparable to the Pxxx series is naive. Nokia and SE are directly competing with each other with the N series and the P series (and to some extent SE's W series).

Sorry for the rant, thanks for listening!
W.


> Interesting post. Somebody remembers Ericsson legacy lives on in the P990 (from the R380World). Someone also remembers that this was the first device to go Symbian OS core, Nokia's 9000i was next shortly after. A more interesting thing to ponder is whether SE will release something as feature rich.

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On 2006-09-28 22:53:37, jmcomms wrote:Saying SE can't compete with the N95 is a little bit silly. They obviously could, but the question is - will they do it now, or later?


>Judgeing from the Walkman lineup lately, photo capabilities is lacking as they have their Photo centric lineup (K800 & rumored video recording device).

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On 2006-09-29 06:21:22, mib1800 wrote:
Why say something stupid when u have no idea it is so. Except for N80, n-series phones last 2.5-4 days on normal usage. If u on wifi all the time of course battery will drain. Comparatively P990 battery do much worse.

Those with N73/93 and K800 have reported that N73/93 battery last at least a day longer than K800.


> Size of batteries have a direct correlation on battery life; with current technology. The battery in the NGage QD was Nokia's best! The N73 doesnt have WiFi, while the N93 does but battery life with such media rich devices like the N93/N95/N80/E70 are subjective. Especially comments coming from those in countries where WiFi isnt so abundant. 802.11g supposedly uses less power to maintain a connection but NOT to transmitt data; than 802.11b. This is fact, yet people's perception on battery drainage from a widening range of usuage or preferences is subjective. But with the almost same battery mAh on the N80 with less features (no GPS, No HSDPA, lower cam resolution); you can see how to deduce the same lackluster performance on the N95.


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On 2006-09-29 07:23:24, c96sthl wrote:
One old example from my travelling experience using my old T39 remember it have a standby estimation. When I depart from Malaysia using MAXIS....I remember it have 300hrs claimed standby then i have to stop at bangkok....when i on it...the stand by drop to 100hrs on the first roaming partner...then I switch it...manage to get 140hrs. (sorry...cannot remember who is the network) then when i reach finland...i get 400hrs using sorena or telia network.


> This is a direct correlation of how far/close you are to a cellular tower, and if towers are placed in any given area at the maximum 7 miles apart (GSM/GPRS). Or if the signal was boosted for data transmission on a specific band as Rogers Wireless does on 850mhz here in Canada (EDGE is only on that band although they have GPRS on both 850/1900Mhz).

I'd much prefer seeing SE's rumored Media phone featuring Video Recording at VGA, 3.2MP CyberShot camera, video playback, Stereo Microphone, and possibly with DVB-T in an elegant pleasing small package.

Touch screen. I can see the use for it, but I dont see it as necessary. Not enough apps cater to it. Paint apps are lacking. I'd like to see a mobile Photoshop app that can integrate into the Media Library to Edit just taken cams photos or existing photos. I'd like to see office MSWord documents to be edited with a handwritten signature inside the document. Lawyers would love this on the P990i. This is just an example. Touch screen isnt necessary like MS PPCPE devices would lead us to believe.

NOTE: Notice how the larger screen on the N95 doesnt have a higher resolution than the N80? Power consumption issues/concerns came to the final production decision to not increase it. Its based on Symbian OS 9.2 which supports VGA resolution but Nokia gave us such an incredible amount of features that they omitted this?! Hmm.
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Posted: 2006-10-01 09:30:14
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shahinv Posts: 2

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On 2006-09-27 06:00:58, mib1800 wrote:
N95 should be THE device to own in the new year. I think no phone can come close to it for a while. any1 who says otherwise is self-deluding.

I am quite surprise Nokia can pack so much functionality in such a small device.


[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2006-09-27 05:02 ]


I cannot agree more.
P990 at least a year behind N95.
even it's os outdated compare to N95.
Sony Ericsson P990 Vs. Nokia N95


[ This Message was edited by: shahinv on 2006-10-17 20:00 ]
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Posted: 2006-10-17 20:58:17
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scroitoru Posts: > 500

I don't know. I read the comparison. So to say P990 is one year behind a N95 is really not fair. But again, the N95 has only a 208 MHZ processor ?!?!? And only 10 % better than the P990 ?!?! This is peanuts considering P990 was announced a year ago !!!! Come on, judge apples and apples, not tow different styles, at 2 different times. What did Nokia have to show a year ago?!
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Posted: 2006-10-17 21:56:00
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shahinv Posts: 2

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On 2006-10-17 21:56:00, scroitoru wrote:
I don't know. I read the comparison. So to say P990 is one year behind a N95 is really not fair. But again, the N95 has only a 208 MHZ processor ?!?!? And only 10 % better than the P990 ?!?! This is peanuts considering P990 was announced a year ago !!!! Come on, judge apples and apples, not tow different styles, at 2 different times. What did Nokia have to show a year ago?!



N95 final specifications still not clear (e.g. cpu, ram, ...) N95 probably have a much higher cpu clock (between 220 MHz to 400Mhz)

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Posted: 2006-10-17 22:56:42
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

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On 2006-10-17 21:56:00, scroitoru wrote:
I don't know. I read the comparison. So to say P990 is one year behind a N95 is really not fair. But again, the N95 has only a 208 MHZ processor ?!?!? And only 10 % better than the P990 ?!?! This is peanuts considering P990 was announced a year ago !!!! Come on, judge apples and apples, not tow different styles, at 2 different times. What did Nokia have to show a year ago?!



Since N95 also capture vga video at 30fps, it is very likely it has the same 330mhz cpu as n93.

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Posted: 2006-10-18 07:54:53
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Jah Posts: > 500

Saw the N95 in real life at the Symbian Smartphone Show (was not on official displaY). Its very small, looks very attractive. Volume shipments will be in March/April next year and it has the fastest CPU of any Nokia device and I couldn't any info on the RAM.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 09:03:13
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