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@tiger:
what's the analogue 450Mhz network? Is it what we called the C-Net?

I still remember an old friend of mine who's grandmom died and left him a lot of money. The first thing he did was buying one of these extremely big and expensive portable phones. He was always running around with this thing and had a smile on the face that needed his ears to get stopped from going all around his head.

r0sewhite
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Posted: 2007-03-28 10:18:58
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analogue network is the 450 mhz network, maybe some countries still have it. they had fones wothout sim cards, like the ph337 for example
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Posted: 2007-03-28 10:25:34
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Can I just say great work on the translation, please keep going with it, as I find your web site very usefull. Things like this are very usefull to people on here, but I know how hard it must be to translate it all to English. Thanks for the work you have done so far.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 10:30:13
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@Boba:
thanks, I just wondered about the name. Are you sure you mean the PH337? The P usually means GSM1800 while G means GSM900. I thought european analogue phones always started with E (=ETACS) like EH238.

@volvoman:
Many thanks, now you're responsible for all the work I will have
To be honest: It's a good way to get some more practice.


By the way: Is here any Orbitel professional? I have a R290 Sat and a GS18. Both phones are prototypes with an empty IMEI (0000...) and both phones start up with an error code 00020004. Does anyone know what this means? The phones seem to work fine and I couldn't detect any failures. May it be possible that the self test only indicates a problem with the empty IMEI?

Unfortunately I neither have a flash cable for the GS18 system connector nor for the R290 so I don't have a chance to upgrade them.

r0sewhite


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Posted: 2007-03-28 11:26:09
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i got once a ph337, as i recall, it was an italian one. it had no simcard slot.
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Posted: 2007-03-28 12:43:49
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Well, it's something like the C-Netz in Germany.
You know that there have been and also are different frequenties for cellular systems like:

NMT450 450 ~ 470 MHz
GSM900 890 ~ 960 MHz
NMT 900 890 ~ 960 MHz
Natel C 890 ~ 960 MHz
TACS 890 ~ 950 MHz
ETACS 872 ~ 950 MHz
PCN/GSM 1800 1710 ~ 1880 MHz
DCS 1800 1710 ~ 1880 MHz
PCS 1850 ~ 1990 MHz
DCS 1900 1850 ~ 1990 MHz

The German C-Netz has used two frequencys:
451,30 to 455,74 MHz for the transmission user to basestation
461,30 to 465,74 MHz for the transmission basestation to user
with analogue transmission of speech.

The Ascom / Ericsson 1911 (also knows as Curt) is a Natel C phone from Suisse. Natel C has been a NMT-system at the frequency range of 890 ~ 960 MHz. It has analogue speech transmission but digital control. So I was wrong to say it'S a phone for the 450MHz analogue networks.
But I finally also got a 'real' ERicsson labeled 1911 and as far as I know, this has been used at the NMT45o in Sweden.

NMT (Nordisk MobilTelefoni or Nordiska MobilTelefoni-gruppen, Nordic Mobile Telephone in English) is the first fully-automatic cellular phone system. It was specified by Nordic telecommunications administrations (PTTs) starting in 1970, and opened for service in 1981 as a response to the increasing congestion and heavy requirements of the manual mobile phone networks: ARP (150 MHz) in Finland and MTD (450 MHz) in Sweden, Norway and Denmark. Östen Mäkitalo is considered as the father of this system, and of the cell phone.

NMT is based on analog technology (first generation or 1G) and two variants exist: NMT-450 and NMT-900. The numbers indicate the frequency bands uses. NMT-900 was introduced in 1986 because it carries more channels than the previous NMT-450 network.

[...]

The NMT network has mainly been used in the Nordic countries, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Slovenia, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Baltic countries and Russia but also in the Middle East and in Asia.

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more to find here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Mobile_Telephone



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[ This Message was edited by: Tigerente on 2007-03-28 23:02 ]
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Posted: 2007-03-28 23:59:40
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@Boba:
I knew that I had a list somewhere, now I've found it

First letter of old models:
A = AMPS (mainly 800)
C = PCS (1900)
D = AMPS (probably D-AMPS)
E = ETACS (analogue)
G = GSM 900
N = NMT (analogue)
P = GSM 1800
T = DECT Hybrid

Second letter of old models:
H = Handset
F = Flip Phone

So the PH337 is the GSM1800 version of the GH337. If your phone missed a SIM card holder its first letter should have been A, D, E or N while A and D are improbably since these are US networks. Maybe some previous owner changed the front cover?

Do you remember how the antenna looked like? I'm not sure but I think all GSM1800 phones should have had a green ring at the antenna socket. Unfortunately these antennas didn't last long and many of them had been exchanged trough a phone's life and therefor got a standard blue ring. Maybe tiger has got further knowledge?

r0sewhite
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Posted: 2007-03-29 04:36:17
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it was this one


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Posted: 2007-03-29 10:48:06
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Truely a nice one. I never had the luck to find one in good condition. All I have are some of these long and thin antennas with green ring. What happened to your phone? Have you sold it?

Regarding antennas: Saturday I've found 3 long antennas for my american models at ebay USA and today they already arrived. This was the fastest shipment ever. I was really surprised beacuse these antennas are not round but square. I think they just look great:



r0sewhite
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Posted: 2007-03-29 17:04:11
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to be honest, i donnow where it is. afaik there was an italian op text on it, thatswhy i think it was from italy
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Posted: 2007-03-29 17:31:02
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