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Raven Posts: > 500

Hehe.. Didn't you pull a stunt like that on me before, Pachy, trying to heat up the discussion? ;) This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2003-02-01 09:30:00
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brick Posts: 162

Well, I may not be riding on a moral high horse, but I definitely do not wallow in the mud like worms by calling people names.

WAP 1.1, IR, etc etc were credited to Nokia, yes, but like I said, in the last decade. OK, so they released the cam and the video cam first, but SE would have beaten to them, since they announced the P800 before Nokia did the 7650. What we are really talking about here is this: at this stage, you are undeniably defending Nokia against SE fans by saying they still innovate, but looking at the list of innovators recently, Nokia takes only their small little share of the honours, and that puts them on equal ground with the other brands, if not actually lower than Siemens and SE. How do they maintain their high level of sales? Not by technological supremacy, but by cosmetic gimmicks and marketing. This you can't deny.

This has been brought around the moon and back, and the facts are here for you to see.
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Posted: 2003-02-01 09:33:00
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pachy Posts: > 500

@Raven, Someone with a similar name i should think
Just been sent some prices for p8 parts from philippines, LCDis £95 but casings are nice & cheap for ex Battery cover £5.
@Brick, oh dear, i`ll leave you to your serious conversation then.

[ This Message was edited by: pachy on 2003-02-01 08:40 ]
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Posted: 2003-02-01 09:36:00
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brick Posts: 162

pachy old buddy, you are good at what you do.
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Posted: 2003-02-01 09:39:00
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Raven Posts: > 500

@brick, lol.. I haven't endulged in name-calling(just yet;)), that was just Pachy's sence of humour. It does NOT matter when a company announce a product, actual release is what matters, so that's a poor argument. I do however agree that Nokia seems to be aiming more and more towards the youth market, leaving fewer options for the business/high-end users. Which I think is a shame, but hey, that's marketing. It is a business after all. This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2003-02-01 09:52:00
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brick Posts: 162

Don't worry, don't we know pachy well enough . Glad you see what I'm talking about. It's a shame about Nokia really, because looking at the revenue they are making, they would be in a hell of a position to push technology further. Instead, it's up to lab rats like SE and Siemens to test the market before Nokia adopts their technology and brings it to the masses. MMS, colour screen, bluetooth, you know.
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Posted: 2003-02-01 09:55:00
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Raven Posts: > 500

@brick, Yeah, holding back on technology is unfortunatly common practice. I think both companies have their pros and cons, if Nokia wasn't so big and SE wasn't strugeling, SE probably wouldn't go through all the hassle of developing those all-in-one devices either, so we should just be happy there is all this competition in this industry! =) And I'm happy I got the best 'phone' on the market! This message was posted from a P800
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Posted: 2003-02-01 10:11:00
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pachy Posts: > 500

At the end of the day, we all have the most desirable phone available, & it happens to be a SE. & the last phone i had was the most deirable phone of it`s time & that was an SE.
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Posted: 2003-02-01 10:29:00
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Amrit Posts: 1

hey ppl
when it comz to me wether i prefer nokia or se i wud defnitely go 4 se . here in india both, nokia and se are made in malaysia, but se hav a LOTTT better quality. and ppl say nokia menus are fast BULLSHIT !! the phonz which are sold here in INDIA hav menus which talk abt 2 to 3 secs to open !!!!! and the nokia phonz literally jus giv up somtimz specially the 3xx0 series . moreover they cost a bomb when compard to se phonz with no new technology all bloody nokia phonz hav the sam kinda software wether you buy a entry level phone or top end one, and everyone owns a nokia !!! so its very common,. even if you buy a nokia 7210 , its nothin gr8, ppl already know wht the phon is all abt , but even if u buy a se 100 thts somthin cool !! so i wud neday prefer se over nokia

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Posted: 2003-02-02 14:04:00
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c96sthl Posts: > 500

AMrit

as far as I know, Nokia didn't have any model made in malaysia. It is either made in europe or in China.

BTW changable cover from Nokia was an upgrade from all the changable face plate of those old GA528?? (E/// brick)

T9 although not an invention of Nokia, but they are one of the first who bought the license and put it into their phone.

The last innovation from Nokia I realised is not 7650 keypad design (that was same as the one in Siemens old 4 colour phone) It was Nokia communicator series.
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Posted: 2003-02-03 04:07:00
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