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Guy H Posts: > 500

Not pis5ed off at all. having just lost my P900 (see other thread) I have replced it with a new P900 knowing about the P910 did not bother me. when it's first out the price will be high and for me the differeces are not that great. the keyboard is no big thing for me. 128Mb is enough space for my needs and i think the screen is excellent anyway.

I'm sure the new P910 owners will be very happy just as I am with the P900
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Posted: 2004-08-10 17:17:20
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draak1 Posts: 193

i'm not angry either.
i'm happy another beast from SE
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Posted: 2004-08-10 18:23:57
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PhonePersonality Posts: 133

This is just my opinion but....I think its okay to be pissed off! Fuming and Raging would be extreme, but pissed off is okay.

And here's why:
1. The P900 has only been around for less than a year and I remember that we were all here last year remarking on improvements on smartphones and how in 6 months S.E would up the ante and release a phone with all the features we missed in this phone...and then some.

2. S.E. didn't do that; What they did instead was release a phone to appeal to a 'new market' (which is fine and dandy)...added a few of the features that they quite easily could have introduced in the P900 in the first place, changed the casing (ever-so-slightly), added a QWERTY keyboard and BOOM! - P910 (not fine and dandy).

3. I can understand S.E's need to market new products and make money, but manufacturer's do have an ETHICAL responsibility to ensure the satisfaction of their clients and when a person makes a choice to buy your product over someone else's (especially at such high costs), I think its wise to respect the choice and the money spent by the consumer. That's how you guarantee repeat business, brand loyalty and best-of-all, 'Word of mouth' advertising. This is all Business 101 stuff, I swear.

4. In a time where countless new features are being introduced into the market today, its a little insulting for S.E to release the P910 with just enough features to make it more 'Wow!' than the P900. Clearly holding back the 'Dealbreaker phone' for perhaps later this year, or early '05. Its almost like them saying 'Oooh! Look what you almost coulda had, silly P900 buyer'.
I mean think about it: RIM support, Extra memory, Duo Pro support. Are these really features that could NOT have been introduced in the 'best smartphone in the world' last year? I don't see why not.

5. It seriously affects their credibility in a market that is SATURATED with other smaller companies sprouting up daily...trying to make a name for themselves by releasing better technologies for cheaper. Not to mention the established companies i.e. Motorola, Samsung etc. who are still trying to get yours and my money as we speak.
These little 'nugget' sized upgrades are a good way for a company to lose buyer confidence AND market share, believe me.

Now, I can't speak for everyone but, I use my P900 phone for personal AND business purposes and if Sony Ericsson is wise, they will find a way to incorporate some of these new and useful features of the P910 into the P900.
If not, what's bound to happen will be, when you and I feel that our P900s have outlived their usefulness, the urge to look elsewhere will set upon us with more and more urgency. Why? Because we know that the newest P1001 SP4, or whatever, might an upgrade around the corner and we'd rather not feel hoodwinked, thank you very much!
That's what happened with Motorola, its what happened (and is still happening) with Nokia and it could happen to S.E.

Now I know every corporation has their own corporate culture and this might be all part of some elaborate plan so high in concept that its beyond my feeble mental grasp. But business is business and money is still money. Market share is not to be toyed with and if you leave your customers with a bad taste in their mouths, its pretty much equivalent to driving your jeep way out into the desert, puncturing the tires, shooting yourself in both feet...and then starting to make a 'mad scramble' back to civilization for help!
Sorry, I just have a dramatic flair sometimes


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Posted: 2004-08-10 21:58:00
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BOOBOO Posts: 28

i just bought mine 1 month ago, now the new ones out, thats bullshit
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Posted: 2004-08-11 07:48:14
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Jim-bob Posts: 151

All of the indepth reviews of the P910 suggest that it is perhaps not worthy of an expensive upgrade from the P900. I agree with those who imply that the P910 is a stop-gap between the P900 and the P1000 (or whatever the name may be) that will establish new boundaries on the smartphone market. Furthermore, I feel that SE can and will get away with marketing the P910 as an improved P900 simply because there is no true competition to either, as true smartphones, at this present time. Many of the ppl who upgraded from p8 to p9 may be expected to upgrade again to the p910, and likewise those who waited with a p8 may finally move to the P910 too.

I think the name itself suggests SE's intentions with such a release: it is NOT the P1000 people perhaps wanted, but I think this is no dis-service, seeing as the P900 came out less than a year ago (to my knowledge).

I think u have to ask yourself, why does this anger u? I cannot see SE turning their backs on P900 owners....certainly software can be developed and used for both models. Furthermore, if u feel dispondent at no longer having the "newest and best" smartphone on the market, I feel there is much to come at the turn of the year. Why did SE release this phone then? Many people did seem to complain about the lack of stick PRO support, the keypad, etc. Whether or not this warranted the release of a model highly similar to the existing P900 is debatable, however it has allowed SE to correct a few faults early on, for those seriously bothered by them, stay top of the Smartphone market, AND signal their intentions for the near future.
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Posted: 2004-08-11 16:54:10
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PhonePersonality Posts: 133

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On 2004-08-11 16:54:10, Jim-bob wrote:

I think u have to ask yourself, why does this anger u? I cannot see SE turning their backs on P900 owners....certainly software can be developed and used for both models. Furthermore, if u feel dispondent at no longer having the "newest and best" smartphone on the market, I feel there is much to come at the turn of the year. Why did SE release this phone then? Many people did seem to complain about the lack of stick PRO support, the keypad, etc. Whether or not this warranted the release of a model highly similar to the existing P900 is debatable, however it has allowed SE to correct a few faults early on, for those seriously bothered by them, stay top of the Smartphone market, AND signal their intentions for the near future.


Despondency and anger aside.
I still question this action by Sony Ericsson. They've marketed the P900 and the "world's best Smartphone" for less than a year. People were geeked...went out and bought this phone. I was one of them.
The features released in this new P910 phone are fantastic, but how does it serve those who already have the P900???
Are they going to release a software update for the P900, or will they say "tough titty y'all" and be done with it?
People aren't so quick to forgive and forget once they feel slighted.
And if you look at buying trends, you will find that the buyer of the new-fangled gizmo today is the same person buying the newer-fangled gadget tomorrow.
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Posted: 2004-08-11 17:06:15
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Dragonfly_TP Posts: > 500

isn't that always the case? you by something and, whoop, there is a new model. My first phone was a Ericsson T18, I was so attached to it... then it quit on me. Now I have a T100 and I hope it will last for very, very long, because I ain't gonna replace it! it is so cool!!!
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Posted: 2004-08-11 17:07:55
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Dragonfly_TP Posts: > 500

what I mean is... uh.. what do i mean... ah yeah, the reason why I don't buy a new phone is that it will be old b4 you know it. that's why I only buy a new phone when the old one goes kaput. I would realy like the S700, so I buy that one in a few years when I'm done with my T100. I don't care if the S700 is outdated by that time. I'm just gonna buy it!!!

"The truth will set you free!!!"
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Posted: 2004-08-11 17:14:14
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a_p_a_n_d_e_y Posts: 308

For all pissed off souls
Please provide an example of ideal hardware upgrade as you expect in real life. Which company has done it? With any cutting edge technology!!! And I'm sure I can counter with multiple examples for each of those where it has always gone the P900->P910 way.
Basic economics and business... thats what people are preaching. Out of the book, look at the real world.
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Posted: 2004-08-11 18:18:52
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richy240 Posts: 465

@PhonePersonality

I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Posted: 2004-08-12 00:04:47
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